Richard, Giles and Paul are back and this time we're looking at debuts, and specifically debut stories where the Doctor is not treated as a classical hero. First we look at Sixth Doctor opener The Twin Dilemma and then we examine the Twelfth Doctor's initial story Deep Breath. Along the way we have a surprisingly wide-ranging chat about colonialism, bad science, Crimewatch, TV writers who go a bit mad when given the chance to do Sci-Fi, sexism and historical appropriation.

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The opening music is Three Guitars Mood 2 and, yes, that is Richard playing the ukulele and kazoo on possibly the worst ever version of the Doctor Who theme tune at the end.

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